terrywarner
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Naturist Beaches
Does anyone use the naturist beaches on Kefalonia? Please post your views and thoughts on this subject. I use the beach at Mounda which is excellent
with lots of space.
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john hearson
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i use the one in skala.
its by the rocks on the right hand side of the beach, follow the beach road pass the "sunrise" about 10 minute walk from the start of the
beach road.
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Be careful whilst i was there at the end of june the police raided the beach and arrested some people - i believe that there were complaints from some
of the local residents
Peter Ward
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Whatever happened to Greek tolerance?! Getting arrested on a beach seems bad news
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Be very careful, we knew the people that were arrested they were let go but had all there passport details taken. Apparently a court order has been
signed and you cannot even go topless or they have said you will be arrested, they came to the beach 3 times in the two weeks we were there. I can see
trouble brewing
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that seems to be it for nudists in Skala
on saturday the police raided the beach and took details of all the nudist there.
i was lucky as i was sitting in victors having a cooling beer at the time.
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Just got back on Tuesday. Stayed in Agia Efimia this year, but visited Skala/Mounda to see some friends. They had also heard of the arrests. I
think this is really bad news and will put a lot of people off as arrests are not what you want to hear of on holiday. Such a shame and it was always
a really friendly part of the beach with families as well as couples visiting. T
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Got back yesterday (Sunday 27th) - Stayed at Marina Bay Studios. On first day our Kosmar Rep warned everyone about nude bathing. We went on beach and
saw that two other couples were nude so we followed suit. We were on beach everyday with no problems (and usually about 3 - 5 other couples were
nude), until Wednesday last week (23rd) when an oldish Greek man walked along the shore with two grandchildren. One of the children was a girl aged
about 10 , and she really shouted at us saying that we were like animals and that she would get her grand father to set his dog on to us and also get
him to call the police. It was obvious that she had been tutored to say this to nude bathers.
I think that the troubles are being caused by probably one individual who has a certain amount of "power" in the Skala region, and who sadly
has a "thing" about naturism. But also some people are sun bathing nude in areas that are too close to non nude people.
I wont go to Skala again with this problem going on. As far as I am concerned I should be able to sun bathe nude on a relatively secluded beach
without any fear of being arrested. I know it is against Greek law to be nude on a beach, but there are very many places all over Greece where
naturism is allowed, and I for one dont want to be intimidated just because of one small minded Greek Individual.
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On one of the other Kef sites someone has just come hom from Scala and last week 3 women and 2 men were arrested the women for being topless and
arguing about it and the men for sticking up for their wives none of them were nude. The rep apparently said they had to stay another 5 days to apear
in court. This definatley is going to stop a lot of people going to Kefalonia sadley.:director:
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| Quote: | Originally posted by terrywarner
I think that the troubles are being caused by probably one individual
I wont go to Skala again with this problem going on. |
I think you are probably right about this being one person causing the trouble. I know who was throwing abuse at people on this beach last year and
will find out if it's the same person complaining this year.
I first went on this beach 15 years ago and it is used by locals (when they have time for the beach!) and tourists alike. Perhaps a
'lookout' system should be instigated!!! Then by the time the police arrived, everyone could have their kit back on!
Also it needs to be made clear to the locals that this is going down very badly with those who have been coming back to Skala year after year - even
those who don't actually use this beach.
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Sad to read all of this. We had booked to go to Scala next year but have now cancelled. Ironic that one of the main tourist guides to ceph depicts
naturists on Scala beach. I guess the offending page will now have to be torn out.
Brian and D
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nudist beach at Skala - the facts
Just back from Skala, we spoke to lots of locals regarding the arrests and we were told that an Athens official had bought a house which overlooks the
rocks where the naturists gather. The local police have to act on his complaints but trouble can be avoided by ironically sun bathing on Mounda Bay
just round the corner where it states no nudism allowed! We didn't have any problems although I cant say I was relaxed and I wasn't nude!!
The topless bathing thing is evidently illegal according to locals.
I would think twice about returning though while this is resolved.
PS Take more money than clothes the prices have shot up!
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SORRY meant to say IS NOT illegal to sunbathe topless..... phew!!!!:hyper:
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scala beach
Hi all
As we are in scala at the moment I can honestly say that the problem Is being blow up out of proportion.
There are plenty of topless bathers on the beaches although have not been around the rocks yet.
Spoken to plenty of locals who seem to be unaware of any major problem.
Having a fab time although its raining at the mo hence why i'm sat on the computer!!
hope to chat sunday
Becky Simon and Nathan x x x
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We were in Scala last month (just for a week) and did venture onto the beach in question as we prefer it to the main beach. We didn't go nude
(this year) but many people were, although not in the numbers we have seen in previous years. We didn't see any police or people being arrested.
We were warned by the reps not to go nude but nothing was said about being topless(for women).
My partner felt worried about even going topless and this did spoil the beach for her as she couldn't relax.
In my opinion there used to be two types of nude sunbathers on this beach.
1. Those that obviously just enjoyed a bit of freedom once a year on hols, and although nude they were discreet and unassuming. No problems with these
people.
2. Those that seemed to do this all the time (deep all over tans). They tended to congregate in and around the big rocks and I can understand why
people would complain. To get onto the beach you had to run the gauntlet of these 'professional' nudist with legs akimbo, and shaved all
over (men & women). I found this very offputting and the lack of these "Rock People" this year was a pleasant change.
So , we have mixed feelings. I don't think we will return to a place where my partner feels scared to go topless and relax but I think it was the
"Rock People" that messed it up for everyone else.
Mick.:director:
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Helen
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Sunbathed nude in the last week or so beyond the rocks in Skala as has been my habit for 15 years.
Same mixture of greeks and non-greeks and low key as usual except for one male brit who insisted on striding up and down beach endlessly (yawn. .
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Must admit I didn't feel as relaxed as usual though.
I was amazed to switch on news in Athens before I went over to Kef and see Skala beach and the arrests being reported on the national news. Several
channels eventually made reports on 'the problem'.
I was told that 'the problem' was not one at all for most Skala locals, it IS actually a local who makes money from tourism in Skala who was
making the complaints, that the whole thing had been handled badly and then got out of hand and hence TV news crews - this from several very reliable
sources I have known for many years.
If the complaints and arrests start up again, mention it on this board and there is some action that can be taken by those who, like me, would like to
continue our peaceful enjoyment of the bit of beach beyond the rocks.
By the way, the no nudism signs now seem to have disappeared!?
The good news - I was prompted to re-explore and find another beach as a backup... I did, I found one and it was completely deserted in August.
Bliss. . . and no I ain't telling you where it is.
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Brett
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Anyone got some updated news on the situation re: nudism in Skala/Kefalonia for 2004 ??
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I havent heard any comments this year & I did see a few nudists on Avothos beach in June.
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A lovely sign has gone up on Skala beach just beyond the rocks this year. This is an official sign put up by the municipality 'to comply with
the law' (so I was told).
I am unclear whether it is OK to go nude now as I have seen posts on other boards about arrests this year (which I don't actually believe) and
also that it is OK to ignore the sign completely and carry on as before on the understanding that it is actually illegal here (as it is everywhere in
Greece).
So - the decision is yours!!!
PS If you want to see the sign go to
http://uk.geocities.com/skalarocks/
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Sorry to hear that the situation appears to remain as in 2003. It was with regret that we cancelled our booking for this year because of the trouble
beyond the rocks. We found a more tolerant place in Greece-with fortunately a lot of the great characteristics of Skala.
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Helen
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A shame bryhy
I think you should post that info to the municipality - there is a link to it on the skalarocks page I mentioned.
Personally I am going to carry on regardless as before!
Are you going to tell us where you are going instead?
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Yes-it was a shame as we had some great times there.
Went instead to Plakias in Crete instead-and likely to go again.
Felt a bit disloyal but if people like us who enjoy swimming without costumes are judged to be threatening then it was time to leave.
Brian
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Brett
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Sad to hear that there is so much uncertainty about nudism in the area of Skala/Kef. I've visited two years running and thought I had found the
perfect beach at Kaminia for some innocent sunbathing 'the way nature intended'.
Have not yet booked - but am already looking on naturist websites for reports of other more open-minded islands in Greece to holiday.
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don
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Remember we are the foreigners in their country
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I totally agree but tourism is all they have got !
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Now now Ivan, you know that ain't true!!!
They have become a bit dependent on it in the recent past though . . .
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Nudism
Look People! It's against THEIR law! Please repect it, you expect people to abide by our laws in the UK, so why try to be soooo different?
I'm in full support of the old guy in Skala.....Nudism shouldn't be allowed....the last thing I want my wife and my 7 year old lad to see is a bunch
of naked people!
Is it too much trouble to ask you to keep a bit of cotton round your privates? Why go nude?
I'm not small minded, but talk of look-out posts and hiding behind the rocks is very seedy indeed!
Please respect the Greeks law and please respect us tourists who do not want to see bits of the human anatomy flopping around on this beautiful
Island.
It had to be said!
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Totally Agree
Another thought why is it that Naturists always seem to be the ones
who least of all should be showing off their bits
Don
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The nudists are, in the main, only up the one end of Skala beach - so if dont want to see them dont go there.
The place is big enough.
Live and let live I say
[Edited on 20-1-2005 by Ivan Graham]
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Ionian Son
It's against THEIR law!
respect us tourists
bits of the human anatomy flopping around
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The villagers of Skala have been quite happy with the situation for the last 20 years and still are according to the latest village meeting they had
on the subject. So respect the locals! It's an incomer who has decided to object to the status quo. And he doesn't HAVE to make the effort to walk all
the way to that part of the beach in order to ensure he is offended!
I don't know anyone who obeys all the laws of the land (whichever land they are in) and even I have gone over 30mph in a 30mph zone before now.
Perhaps you are that unblemished person?
As for flopping anatomy, you can see this in any British town centre in the summer thanks to people - both male and female - who wear clothes that are
rather too small for them and their beer bellies, flabby arms, fat cellulite thighs, etc, etc. Try sitting on a London bus in the summer and have a
man in only a pair of shorts and sandals come and sit right next to you. Actually touching you. That really IS offensive.
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At least the guy on the London bus and those people wandering around with their flabby arms and fat cellulite thighs HAVE some clothes on!
How do you think we feel when we see those people WITHOUT their clothes, wandering around the beach as if they own it, oblivious that they are causing
offence to the majority of the sunseekers......!!
Is that what you want our kids to see?
Keep your costumes on! Is it that much of a thrill to be released from a pair speedo's? Why is it so hard to wear a piece of cloth the size of a small
tea towell? What delight do you get on the removal of that tiny piece of cloth? Is it that important to show your bits to the world?
As for being unblemished, no I'm not. I break the law every day in some small way or another, but what has going over 30mph got to do with exposing
yourself.....I don't see the connection. If I go 35mph in a 30mph limit, I'm not shocking or upsetting anyone, but if I walked around buck naked I'd
be thrown in jail......so where's the connection?
Both laws are broken, but one is shocking, the other.....every one does it. Not a connection.....A DIFFERENCE!
I'm no prude, and I'm very broadminded. I'm just a normal bloke who takes offence at public nudity. Don't try to defend it....it's simply wrong!
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I totally agree with Ivan.
On our first visit to Kef we stumbled across the nudist area.
Didn't bother us but have never been that way since.
But to Ionian Son, have you never swam in the nude? just whip those Speedos off when you are in the water, fantastic! 
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I agree. I adored swimming in the nude. I'm on holiday so i want to release all the stress in my life and swimming nude felt so free and natural.
I plough plenty of money into the local economy whilst i'm over there and i keep out of the way whilst swimming nude...i.e when i've hired a boat and
gone well out of the way of anyone so where's the problem!!!!!!
Ok so i've kept away from people but as far as sunning / swimming naked goes, you can't beat it.
Jerry
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Mmmmmmm! The only time I swam nude was when my trunks fell off whilst tackling a big wave! I managed to gather them in after much splashing about!
Trying to put them back on again was like a trial on the Krypton Factor!
Don't get me wrong....if you want to go nude, go nude, but not on a shared beach! Whilst in Telendos, I was totally unaware of a nudist beech until
the last day of my holiday when I saw the signs. They warned us not to go any further because of the nude bathers. They were at least a mile away
along a hot and dusty path. A MILE AWAY! Not just around the corner.
I object to the 'matter of fact' way some nudists shed their clothes. For instance, I was on Issos beach in Corfu last year, the beach was busy,
everyone was suitably clothed, when right in front of us a German came waddling out of the sea, trunks on, then just peeled them off.....right in
front of my wife and yound son, and proceeded to walk about with an arrogant look on his face, before beaching himself 10 yards from us...still
naked!
When I told him to 'setzen Sie etwas Kleidung auf Sie fetter Dummkopf!' , he shuffled about and draped his cap over his offending article.
Go nude if you want to....whatever rings your bell, but don't to do it where kids can see you, and find your own beach where us 'trunkies' are not
allowed.....oh! and keep away from the local authorities.....in other words......KEEP YOU PANTS ON!
I'm not a misery.....honest!
ps Bear....what the difference between sunning nude and putting on a small pair of trunks? just enough to cover your doo-daahs? Try and explain.
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Well...i do keep out of the way admittedly and yes, it should be done away from kids etc on populated beaches but i believe most nudists in Kef are
careful to stay away from other peoples eyes, using the rocks as screens.
The difference...immense. The feeling of freedom on the body is so much greater than wearing of the smallest of speedos.
Everyone to their own ofcobottom. My wife can't say she particularly enjoyed the experience any moreso than in a bikini but i certainly did.
Jerry
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Ionian Son
I break the law every day in some small way or another, but what has going over 30mph got to do with exposing yourself.....I don't see the connection.
If I go 35mph in a 30mph limit, I'm not shocking or upsetting anyone, but if I walked around buck naked I'd be thrown in jail......so where's the
connection?
Both laws are broken, but one is shocking, the other.....every one does it. Not a connection.....A DIFFERENCE!
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Interesting to see that you pick and choose which laws you keep and which you break. So it's OK to go over the speed limit because 'everyone does
it', is it?
I'll follow your logic:
On Skala beach beyond the rocks 'everyone does it' so I guess it must be OK for me to go nude too. That's that settled then. I just adore logical
argument!!!!!!! 
Actually the difference between nude sunbathing and going over 30 mph is that the latter actually kills and maims lots and lots and lots of people
every year including children. Some difference!
But don't worry it's OK because 'everyone does it'.
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So Helen, I gather you walk down your local street in the buff, eh? Didn't think so! It against the law isn't it? So is speeding, but two wrongs don't
make a right. That's Logical.
I break the speed limit because sometimes I HAVE to, I try not to do it when I'm not at work....how about you trying not to sunbathe nude? Or is it
too strong a temptation to let it all hang out?
You can't defend Public Nudity.....it's wrong, it's the law (and I should know!) and it offends people.
What is difficult to grasp is why do it? I honestly think there is an imbalance going on somewhere in the old grey matter among people who take great
pleasure in strolling around naked!
It's just my opinion, and I respect yours to a degree, I just wish all you nudists would realise the majority of folks are against it and it's morally
wrong.
Please respect our views as well.
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Enough now please
I do take helen's view as sunbathing doesn't actually harm anyone and for christ sake - if you dont want to see nude people - you know where they are
so just keep away - there is plenty of sand else where.
So lets put this one to bed please before it gets out of hand - ok?
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OK..... finished now.........only sorry you don't see my view, Ivan!
ENOUGH!
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Ionian Son
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Σ ε β α σ τ ε ί τ ε τ η ν τ ρ ο χ α ί α
μ α λ ά κ α !!!
Enough indeed!
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